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Michael Collins Piper challenges Alex Jones: Start telling the truth or resign as ‘leader’ of truth movement

Posted in Alternative Media, Jews, Mainstream Media, Media, Political Correctness, War by maasanova on January 2, 2011

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“Shape up or ship out”–Michael Collins Piper of  American Free Press continues with his previous discussion concerning Alex Jones and how all discussion–as well-intentioned as it may be–if not honed against the whetstone of the truth ultimately works in the service of the very enemies the “Truth Movement” purports to be fighting.

Note: While the Prison Planet and Infowars websites generally put out excellent information, the Alex Jones radio persona often melds truths with exaggerations, speculation and at times, total nonesense. In the continuing critical analysis of the Alex Jones media phenomenon and the information that he dissiminates, Michael Collins Piper challenges Alex Jones to get his story straight on World War II history, or resign as self-proclaimed leader of the truth movement. If Jones continues to put forth the fanciful idea that the Nazis have survived World War II and are now in control of the world, then the truth movement should “fire him.”

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  1. FreeAgent37 said, on August 21, 2011 at 3:39 am

    R U A complete Idiot? …the ONE who is obviously jealous of Alex’s position…the Nazi Creators are Alive and well and are trying to repeat History in Americas backyard!…and what type of Truth are U Reading?…U think the Blue-print of Hitler Died with Hitler? …U think Hitler had no other hidden hands? ,…like every other altered story in America? …LOL (((Disinformation Here Folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)))

  2. Richard Kurdt said, on August 21, 2011 at 3:40 am

    I don’t think Jones ever claimed that “Germans rule the world” or anything like that. It sounds like Collins Piper is referring to the British Monarchy having German heritage, didn’t Jones focus on that in a video broadcast not long.ago? The Nazis were recruited and rescued by US agents so….

    Isn’t Jones’ wife Jewish? He’s probably not trying to offend his wife is all. Nobody has all of the answers and nobody’s right about everything. Jones is cool in my book.

    ..

  3. Chris said, on August 21, 2011 at 3:56 am

    Generally excellent? Maybe that was true at one point but honestly I think most of it smacks of blatant disinfo now. Fuck Alex Jones and Paul Watson and all of the controlled opposition at Infowars.

  4. Dave Longo said, on August 21, 2011 at 4:12 am

    Looks Like Collins wants to get some attention, the best way to do that is to snip at Jones’s ankles like a yorkie

  5. Howard T. Lewis III said, on August 21, 2011 at 4:37 am

    Without even considering information emanating from or derived from anything having to do with Alex Jones, it is evident as the stink on a skunk that in using the traditional pirates’ service personified by the CIA and the Skull and Bones crowd, the European royals/Rothschild alliance has recently destroyed a huge portion of U.S. activity and enterprise and is bearing down for the kill. In 1930, the queen of England signed over $12 million to bolster Adolf Hitler and the nazis through a contribution written up by the law firm of Allen and John Foster Dulles’ law firm of New York city. Coincidently, The American genome project has been carried out at a facility located at what once was the estate of Allen and John Foster Dulles. My source for this is a publication printed in England in 1958 before shorty was born. I don’t imagine they were much influenced by Alex Jones or the 9-11 truth movement, who err on the side of cowardice, just short of going home to mom. 10 years and they still refuse to interview the builders or offer to record me doing it. And I have repeatedly stated I have known of the demolition system in the WTCs and Sears(Willis) tower for over 40 years, as have many people they all ignore.
    The buildings were retriggered. The Willis tower is set with 1960s vintage thermi(a)te, top to bottom. Look, and see turkeys, or indulge in your stupid pissing contests for self-indulgence.

  6. Bill said, on August 21, 2011 at 4:46 am

    “Judea Declares War on Germany! Jews of all the World Unite!”
    – London Daily Express Headline, March 24, 1933

    “Hitler will have no war but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon”
    – Emil Ludwig Cohn Les Annales, June, 1934 “The New Holy Alliance”

    “We Jews are going to Bring a war On Germany.”
    – David A. Brown, National Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934 (quote “I Testify Against The Jews” by Robert Edward Edmondson, page 188 “The Jewish War of Survival” by Arnold Leese, page 52)

    “I believe now that Hitler and the German people did not want war.
    But we declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of balance of power, and we were encouraged by the ‘Americans’ around Roosevelt. We ignored Hitler’s pleadings not to enter into war. Now we are forced to realize that Hitler was right.”
    – Attorney General, Sir Hartley Shawcross, March,16th, 1984

    ‘There is scarcely an event in modern Europe that cannot be traced back to the Jews.
    We Jews are today nothing else but the World’s seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its executioners.’
    — Jewish scholar, Oscar Levy; in his preface to G. Lane-Fox Pitt-Rivers, The World Significance of the Russian Revolution.

  7. Bill said, on August 21, 2011 at 4:48 am

    ‘The Holocaust industry has always been bankrupt. What remains is to openly declare it so.
    The time is long past to put it out of business. The noblest gesture for those who perished is to preserve their memory, learn from their suffering and let them, finally, rest in peace.’

    ‘Both my father and mother were survivors of the Warsaw Ghetto and the Nazi concentration camps.
    My parents often wondered why I would grow so indignant at the Falsification and exploitation of the Nazi genocide.
    The Holocaust has proven to be an indispensable ideological Weapon, and the most successful ethnic group in the US has likewise acquired victim status
    “If everyone who claims to be a survivor actually is one,” my mother used to exclaim “who did Hitler kill?”

    -Professor Norm Finklestein

    Anyone remember the start of World War Two?
    The Western (Jewish) media was condemning Germany in 1938 for taking back territory that was ethnic German or had been part of Austria for hundreds of years.
    Meanwhile, England firmly sat on top of Wales, Scotland and northern Ireland and every “journalist” in the West was oblivious to the fact that the English were occupying THREE different ethnic homelands while complaining about Hitler occupying Czechoslovakia, which had been part of Austria for hundreds of years.
    The Allies (obviously) didn’t care about self-determination, especially considering that they turned over half of Europe to Communist tyranny by 1945. They just wanted to chop Germany and Austria into as many disconnected parts as possible while not applying the same “self-determination” to Wales, Scotland and northern Ireland.

  8. Guest said, on August 21, 2011 at 4:57 am

    Jones is a disinformation agent, and so is much of the so called ‘news’ propagated on his websites. Nobody should be given Jones any credibility or attention (or airtime). Ignoring this fool is probably the best course of action (and stop advertising on his websites, Jones is raking in millions and living quite grandiosely).

  9. Anonymous said, on August 21, 2011 at 5:23 am

    Well, not literally, but fascism is prominent.

  10. AnonymousGuest said, on August 21, 2011 at 5:24 am

    Not literally but fascism is prominent.

  11. tonybinca said, on August 21, 2011 at 5:34 am

    Doesn’t Mr. Collins know about operation paperclip? Jones may not be too far off on that one, only the nazis are not German, they’ve infiltrated the US intelligence agencies. Where Mr. Jones really screws up is with his support of the fraudulent, racist state of Israel.

  12. Steve From St. Louis said, on August 21, 2011 at 7:54 am

    Michael Collins Piper is an idiot. Not that I am protecting Alex Jones, he is a tool as well. But Piper when I used to listen to RBN he would be on after Alan Watt and within 2 mins of his show Piper would start Bashing the jews for all the world problems. Not that I am a a Jew(Kazar) lover but that common dude. Piper is a idiot. If anyone takes him seriously they are better off listening to Rush Limbaugh or Glen Beck.

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  14. Joe Anonymous said, on August 21, 2011 at 9:05 am

    Something to think about.

    Our general understanding that the last year of the war had pretty much destroyed German infrastructure. It was a wasteland. The ability to produce, provide and distribute essential goods and services were near to non existent. Near the end, German military was conscripting boys as young as 12 and men as old as 70.

    There were no chubby pink smiling beautiful German people partying in German burbs. There were none to be found anywhere in Germany in the closing years of the war. The water and sewage systems were destroyed. All the electric plants that allies could strike, were bombed.

    Kurt Vonnegut was a German POW in Dresden and working at a syrup factory when Dresden was firebombed. He described German people as malnourished. THe lucky ones, according to Kurt, worked at the syrup factory . 90% of their diet was sugar.

    In our time, we see refugee centers on the news all the time. Refugee camps always seem to grow around a food and essential services distribution centers on CNN.

    Question:
    If there had been no Jews in Germany, would the alleged concentration camps be described, instead, as refugee camps?

    Think about it.

  15. Anonymous said, on August 21, 2011 at 11:34 am

    The Nazis DO control the mainstream media, the banking industry, the movie industry, the fashion industry, the sports industry and most major industries.

    They are AshkeNAZIS.

  16. Anonymous said, on August 21, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    leader of the truth movement? really?

  17. Anonymous said, on August 21, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    whats the problem , thats an accurate assessment .maybe not the exact same people ,but their trainees ,proteges ,their , direct relatives and people that they put into place and/or have the same ideology as them….are you people fuckin stupid, this is what you are doing ,attacking one of our own ,an ally, alex jones is on the right side, , if you are gonna be divided and conquered and fight amongst each other to the end then by all means lets nitpik what he means by the same people are in charge now….get a clue , you should know what he means by that , obviously its not literally ,duh…. come on ,grow up children.,since your so eager to lose this battle and have decided to work against the truth movement ,then go all the way and slander the shit out of all truthers lets see who we can take some credibility away from , you fuckin pussies make me sick , I should find you and beat all your asses myself just for being such jerks.

  18. Anonymous said, on August 21, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    whats the problem , that’s an accurate assessment .maybe not the exact same people ,but their trainees ,proteges ,their , direct relatives and people that they put into place and/or have the same ideology as them….are you people fuckin stupid, this is what you are doing ,attacking one of our own ,an ally, Alex Jones is on the right side, , if you are gonna be divided and conquered and fight amongst each other to the end then by all means lets nitpick what he means by the same people are in charge now….get a clue , you should know what he means by that , obviously its not literally ,duh…. come on ,grow up children.,since your so eager to lose this battle and have decided to work against the truth movement ,then go all the way and slander the shit out of all truthers lets see who we can take some credibility away from , you fuckin pussies make me sick , I should find you and beat all your asses myself just for being such jerks. yeah you Micheal Collins Piper, if that’s your real name, sounds like a CIA name to me ,yep who else would instigate this little minded fighting about nothing , maybe one of the other”intelligence ” agencies what a joke intelligence community ,sure is packed full of stupid , fuckin, traitors aint it….maybe we should re-brand you with the truth, like”idiotic selfishness” , wouldn’t that be the opposite of the words” intelligence community”.

  19. Anonymous said, on August 21, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Sounds like Mr. PIper is the DISINFO AGENT. Maybe he should study up on Operation Gladio. Then maybe he’d understand that the Nazi’s are in the White House, and all over the Empire.

  20. bruce said, on August 21, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    AJ thesis is supported by Operation Paperclip and the subsequent importation of the Reinhardt Galen & Otto Skorzeny network into our CIA. Put up or STFU, Mr. Piper

  21. max said, on August 21, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    I think Alex Jones means, those who financed nazi germany(Rockefellers and the Rothchild) are still in power, and from my point of view i think he is right.

  22. Anonymous said, on August 21, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Jones does frequently give the Zionists a pass. Overall however, his information is outstanding. He has the the most amazing guests on show, which is far superior to any other show anywhere.

  23. eric said, on August 21, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Well Michael, it’s been my position that Nazi’s had escaped after WWII and infiltrated many areas which have alllowed them to set the stage for world domination, and I believe this goes back way before WWII. I have first hand knowledge that leads me to believe this, and Alex Jones is correct for the most part. To most people this doesn’t add up, but, given what I’ve learned it makes sense. Only time will tell in the end if all the efforts will pay off, lets hope not.

  24. maasanova said, on August 21, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    I’ve previously had to moderate my blog because someone kept using my blog as their own personal blog and leaving strange random posts.

    I approved everyone’s comments.

    Please continue this discussion, it’s fascinating!

  25. maasanova said, on August 21, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Michael Collins Piper from his broadcasts at Republic Broadcast Network discussing Alex Jones’ protege Jason Bermas, who told a caller to go and electrocute himself for saying that the mainstream media is Jewish dominated.

    http://www.archive.org/details/JasonBermasJewishMediaControversy

  26. Jack said, on August 21, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    Alex Zionist Jones is a famous Zionist. He works for Israel. All information is scrubbed for Israel. The Nazis are coming? What a shocker! No one saw that coming. Arabs own Hollywood? Another surprise. Let me guess: Iranians own the Federal Reserve. This topic is really – ridiculous. Ok. The issue is: REAL NEWS. I know Jones is an Israeli agent. The end. You have some sophistry on the topic? And? I answer to no one on the topic. That is the issue: the world is dying. MOST people are mindless fools. Those are facts on the ground. Do anything you want. Why would I care? How is this a secret? Like tube atheists are Zionists. Like fake Christians are Zionists. Like Alex Jones followers ARE Zionists and don’t even bother lying about. Alex Jones followers will attack you WITH ZIONISM. “You are clearly an anti-Semite racist filled with hate if you don’t listen to Zionist Jones!” I accept. I would rather be called names than join the cult. What is Plan B? Well – that is kind of thing of Zionism – there is no plan B. They will call you names as provided by master. When it fails, they will – call you names louder. Wow – scary. I won’t join the fake tea-party Tea-ocon ZIONISTS. I won’t join the tubby Jones Zionists. Back to the only topic here: Humans who can or cannot tell real news from fake. That is what we people do. Ship Jones back to Tel Aviv. Q: What % of ‘terrorists’ are anti-Semites? 100%. No fly lists? 100% Watch lists? 100% How many Jewish Americans will be in FEMA camps? Well a few, RUNNING THE PLACE. All the war on terror is: War on people Israel hates. I flushed Jones years ago.

  27. asdf said, on August 21, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    crap

  28. Anonymous said, on August 21, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Jones is correct. The royal family are German NaZi’s. The pope is a NaZi. The Zionists joined Hitler’s National Socialist Party = NaZi. Zionist Rothschilds IMF world bank, UnFederal Reserve. AIPAC controls most of Congress, the Senate, and US foreign policy. The Dept. of “Homeland” Security is NaZi. The Patriot Act is a NaZi law, etc etc etc.

  29. Daniel S. Thompson said, on August 21, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Jones is factually, historically correct. As insider Antony C. Sutton reveals in “Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler,” the current controllers of the international banking cartel are the intellectual, financial and biological heirs of the powers that created and controlled the Nazis. Alex Jones is a great American, warning us of the dire threat posed by the resurgence of fascism in the form of the globalist/internationalist movement. Do some basic research, and address the matter in a reasonably informed way, or STFU.

  30. Bob J, New York said, on August 21, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    A former head of defense industry/NASA too, Werner Von Braun, another Nazi brought to US. Jones is right that the Nazis are still basically intact. But I would categorize it more broadly as fascist entities, not only ethnic Germans. Even Illuminati may be more accurate, despite being more nebulous.

    What enrages Piper and many others- myself included- is the 100% coverup job Jones & his SS (Sayanim Staff) do for the Zionists who control the very top of the pyramid, and whose ownership of world levers of power now constitute a de facto world dictatorship. In this, Piper is completely accurate and to be lauded for calling it out.

  31. Bob J, New York said, on August 21, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Bit of history here… Jones was the NWO’s replacement for the too dangerous and insider Illuminati-educator, Truth renegade Bill Cooper. Jones got his fame off stealing Cooper’s genuine prediction of 911. Cooper got assassinated. Jones obviously had alot of $$$ backing and connnections by the PTB to be the ‘renegade replacement’ who deflects as he is paid/rewarded to do.

    Must be very galling for folks like Piper who work thrice as hard, are more intelligent and because of their integrity get none of the deserved rewards or credit of agents like manipulator Jones. Who wouldnt get pissed at such injustice?? What was hiarious was when the MSM installed a Jones mimic ala Glenn Beck. Then we saw the first imposter weazel squeal!!!
    Such inequity and fraud are the hallmark of our entire system, from Jones to the handlers he purports to expose.

  32. Bob Brown said, on August 22, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    What the F””k does the truth matter when the lying conniving Rothschild (Nastschild) have been chopping Your balls off. While every body bitches back and forth about nothing. Wake up there now coming after your pension plans. Reducing the stock market as low as they can, to double their already more money than god stock pill. When they get finished this time many of you will be dead. We have gotten this way with their asinine control over we the people. Any body that does not realize that they own your ass, has their head up there. You can thank Winston Churchill that there is still people with brown eye’s still on this planet. To think this elitist group suddenly stopped this per suite is asinine. It’s not about Hitler It’s not about Germany it’s not about Jew’s, it’s about Zionist Rothschild. Be careful they don’t suck you into a another war. To draw your attention away from the the plan. Agenda21 And depopulation. Guess what number one thing that works for them, is people bitching back and forth will they clean up.

  33. god said, on August 23, 2011 at 12:27 am

    hitler wasn’t the monster you idiots have been brainwashed into believing

  34. god said, on August 23, 2011 at 12:29 am

    jones does mention nazis and/or hitler at least 20 times a week. I would bet that is fairly accurate, +/- 5. i TOLD HIM MILLIONS OF TIMES TO QUIT EXAGGERATING.

  35. god said, on August 23, 2011 at 12:34 am

    HITLER KICKED THE ROTHSCHILDS BANK OUT….GERMANY WAS THE WORST ECONOMY IN EUROPE AND WITHIN 2 YEARS WAS THE BEST ECONOMY IN EUROPE…..THE ROTHSCHILDS HIT THE PANIC BUTTON AND BOUGHT OFF EVERYONE HE COULD TO SEND THE GOY TO STOP HITLER AND USE THE PRESS, OF WHICH THEY OWN TO FOOL US, CONNING US, TELLING US THAT GERMANY WAS CUTTING BABIES HEADS OFF AND PLAYING BASEBALL WITH THEM. WE BETTER KICK THE NWO’S BUTT OR THEY ARE GOING TO CULL US. IT’S BEING DONE SLOWKILL STYLE ALREADY….THEY HAVE SO MANY HORRIBLE THINGS THEY WANT TO DO TO US IT ISN’T FUNNY ONE BIT….THIS IS NO MOVIE…THIS IS YOUR LIFE BUT TO DUMB TO KNOW IT….OH….YOU WILL KNOW IT SOON ENOUGH…..ME TOO. I’M NOT IMMUNE. WE CAN STOP IT IF WE WANT TO.

  36. Alex (Baby wants his bottle?) Jones said, on November 26, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Alex Jones isn’t a complete idiot.
    Some parts are missing…


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